Several people have contacted me about sharing seeds on a private network. I think this is a great idea. In fact, I like the idea so much that I created this graphic.
What do YOU think?
Tags: Barbara H. Peterson, Farm Wars, farmwars, food freedom, food localization, gardening, seed sharing
I have been feeling the same need and path to save and share seed. I’m in the process of setting up my own online SeedBank.
Not only is it important for diversity itself, but also I feels it’s so important that we get out there and plant them, to nurture them and save/share the seeds, that way we become more healthy and natural beings, less consumers reliant upon systems.. It integrates the whole cycle of life, the more people in the garden planting food forests and Eco-systems the closer we are to a harmonious planet.. For instance the Occupy movement would have been much more radical and successful if all those people planted trees, herbs and flowers, in cities and rural areas.. Planting food empowers communities, taking the reliance off corporations.. Putting our energies into healthy living, vibrant communities and ecosystems, what we want, not what we don’t..
You can get a lil idea of where I’m at with my site http://www.nohasark.com.au.. But yea I need more online time and less garden time to get the seed part going ~ The conundrum..
Irene – Horizon Herbs is on the preliminary clean seed list. I will start vetting the list for biotech connections tomorrow, then post the results when I am finished.
Good news!
page 2 of horizon herb has the plant you desire for 200seeds at $2.xx
http://www.horizonherbs.com/gr.....38;pgNUM=2
What do you think of these guys?
.I did not know, how sad there was lost a whole catalogue of medicinal herb seed. That news could have been a censored news story.
like the seed exchange at the occupy wallstreet last week.
Video: (3:18)
http://www.nextworldtv.com/page/6194.html
Today, Mike Adams the health ranger compiled a list of the top 10 most censored stories of the year. Check it out at:
http://www.naturalnews.com/034.....ories.html
I’m getting desperate because I realize the medicinal herbs I took for granted can;t be found on the net anymore. My tea garden is all I have left..
Seeds of Change is owned by Mars, Inc., which is helping push GMO cocoa into Africa. Africa produces around 70% of the world’s cocoa.
Dinah, we need to talk. I looked up the wiki on artimesia annua and I’m pretty sure it is the same plant you describe. Cattle won’t eat it so It grows on the hillsides around old cow pastures above 3000feet elevation. My friend who grows the stuff unintensionally has maybe 2 acres she has been trying to get rid of for years. I go in the fall and fill my subaru with the dry wormwood plants. If I don’t keep the windows open it makes me sick by the time I get home. Less than almost nothing fed to a goat every day will kill worms or fetus if the doe is pregnant. I’m pretty sure this is the plant you want and I’m sure there will be seeds in abundance next september. What ever happened to seeds of Change? That was my favorite seed sight 2 years ago but it seems to have reduced offerings now. They had artimesia worm wood for sale back in the day wich is how I figgured out to use it for worming. Seeds of change had the best medical herb collection ever 2 years ago, but not now?
Irene: tooo funny ! about the artemisia…there are several or more in public domain HOWEVER the really REALLY important one is artemisia annua…THIS is the one I have bought and intend to keep in the public domain, singlehandedly if nec ! why !? because it cures breast cancer, modulates immune ….how do I know this? long story….better story: A Annua also heals colon cancer, lung cancer and specific head/ neck cancers as well as pediatric brain cancer. Breast cancer can be treated at home using artemisinin and pet cancers are very successfully treated albeit with a pharma brand/ strength of this. The organic seed has been removed from public domain and while one CAN buy A annua ( seed) it is an altered one, even if the company says not. SO, if indeed you have a friend who HAS A annua on their property, the seed is EXCEPTIONALLY valuable and they need to NEED TO plant/ harvest seed and SHARE like crazy…..likewise for comfrey…it is no longer available in seed catalogs as an organic seed….so if anyone has comfrey that has grown over the years please focus on harvesting seed and continueing to ” spread it” lavishly with friends, family and others ( I WOULD BUY 5000 seeds) asap myself if anyone has please….
The add list , alfabetical order with missing plants included, wiki linked, and ammendable, by 3 ways, moderator1, date expire2, and poster’s alteration, for accuracy and add removal. That tkes it out of e mail formatt andd thus makes it harder to use the existing yahoo e mail public list system. The up side is that it could be done with a web site and 1homepage and many links on that page in alfabetical to plantname opening the list words would open a page with 1 wiki styled link and 1 list of seed adds, then the off topic group list to go with questions. (Like a form letter the poster fills a questionare when posting their add that gives a way of private contact to reply to avoid trolling. How does Craigs list do it? I know it gets abused but It also has changed the world!
BTW, Yep, seeds in the gun safe, It keeps the children from playing in them. You would like me! I’m kind. I started figguring 2/3rds of the pasture is for wild animals & the elk have started snuggling up to my house. I can hunt from my toilet if I want but I can’t keep the elk out of the GMO pastures unless I feed them myself. Sigh* live and let live.
I wish the seed list could be alfabetical and wikipedia link with a whole page of information about the plant so we could go down the list of seeds and decide what would serve in our situation. Some seeds like Alfalfa might have no offerings but the link to the wikipedia styled artical would tell of the genetic modification and how there isn’t organic alfalfa seed being sold. By the way I know of a guy growing artimesia and seeds are really easy to come by. I harvest it free every fall and worm my animals with the stuff. If you want seed I’ll send it to you for postage.
What excellent comments and suggestions! You guys rock :) So, here’s the plan: Today I put together the preliminary list of existing corporations that sell heirloom non-GMO connected seeds. This list will include all entries made by all who responded. The next step is to ferret through them and weed out the Monsanto connections. This is the public list. Anyone who wants to put a favorite company on this list can do so, and it will be vetted for GMO connections.
Since there has been such a response to the private seed network, I contacted my techie friends and they should be here on Monday or so to go over how to set up and maintain a platform combining the ideas sent in by everyone on this site as well as the Facebook team.
Again, keep the ideas coming. With your help, we are on the road to developing a seed swapping underground network.
P.S. Dinah, thanks. Couldn’t have said it better myself. It is NOT a problem of too many people. It is rather, a problem of too many GREEDY people.
Irene, seeds in a gunsafe? lordy I LIKE you already ! chuckle !
well Barbara, you started this….seems as though there are seeds aplenty and good ideas too….an idea would be to focus on food crops,herbal medicine crops and then ornamentals….my opinion since the FDA has it’s beady ( regulating) eye on foods and medicinal plants ! Edibles:Leafy greens,cruciferous veggies, peas, all beans and grains, pumpkins and squash….. then the medicinals: comfrey, the rare sages, artemisia annua ( I have just found a source that has hasn’t been ” bought out” and bought last years entire supply!) There are many but this serves just as a pertinent point to ponder.
Vitorino, while Barbara runs this “place” I simply must speak out at your errors in thinking. “Poors problems” is NOT excess of manpower but rather concentrated corporate monolithic enterprise. It is corporate control over our individual right to provide food for our families and the right to choose WHICH food….to grow….to eat ! It is lack of free enterprise, lack of empathy and overiding greed and worship of consumerism from foundation to pinnacle. You are terribly misguided in most all of your statements which are ill conceived, irrational, bigotted and inspired by a distinct lack of “intellectual basis of fact”. In short, you, by your statements epitomize the very things wrong with our society today. Those are my thoughts.
Well. I feel there are much more people interested in this problem which is a health problem than I thought and than it seems at first sight. Happilly there are many million people concerned about the future of themeselves and that of humankind. Very good. That makes me very happy. This way I believe it’s time for us to begin organing international foruns to explain everybod why should people follow us.
And I found one way to impose people who are killing us not to do that. Let’s think together. Isn’t it true that poor’s problems are due to excess people to work? If we succed convincing couples not to have more than two children in 20 years there would be missing lots of people to work by a cheep price. That would impose slave owners to pay best salaries and offer better conditions for their emploies and that way they begin warrying among them to get skill workers. It’s very simple to put rich people working for their emploies e make the emploies richer. But look! Don’t do that thinking on you because you can not get any benefit from that. Think about your sons and grand-sons. Thinking this way, in the future generations our work will produce a tremendouse success. Tel me what you think. Do we organize or not? And another thing. Zionists must not be allowed in the organization.
Now a want add style system could also be set up to coalate the response to an add so that you could look at the list and see the offers and counter offers after the posting.
Swiss chard seeds, aprox 1/4 ounce, in Montana asking $5 or trade.
Answerman!:: I have apple seedlings, how about an apple tree for those chard seed, you pay shipping..
Anewguy:: I have $5, and I live in Butte, where are you?
A new subject would be the latest new add so the subject line would be the add and opening it would lead to the detailed transactions being revealed.
And something like yahoo or google groups could be a help. If you made posting subject to moderation and forced members to join free and unjoin when done selling and purchasing on the seed exchange side. That is have an off topic list that goes into discussions of seed saving and shipping, propagating and genetics etc. The moderator would have to make replys go generally off list in the seed exchange but on list for the off topic side. That way there would be a list that would be like a want add and in the fine print at the bottom you could be directed to a discussion group to talk to the population of seed savers. Otherwise, answering a want add for seeds would send your inquiry not to the list but to the individual posting the add in a reply., adjacent to the seed exchange.
I wanted to put my phone number or e mail address on my posts but I’m afraid to because it might get harvested. I wish to “”advirtise “” my seeds and get calls directly with out my info being harvested and scammed. I just went to my seed vault, in a locked safe with my guns, and found that I saved a lot more seeds than I thought I had. I even saved my favorite dandilion seed from plants that made wide mild tasting leaves. I also have Yarro seeds, wild quinnoa, and red wheat, barley and oats.
Hey everyone~
Get a few old copies of the original Seed Savers Exchange yearbooks and perhaps try to emulate some of their original methods before they turned corporate and rotten. At one time, Seed Savers WAS a very good thing. So figure out how to avoid any rich bigots from getting ‘involved’ and allowing them to ‘improve’ (control with their money) things. Make sure that this is done. NO RICH BIGOTS ALLOWED.
Merry Christmas to all the little, poor and honest folk, the ones who live for love and necessity and abide in NATURAL LAW and do not (like the rich) live for money and bigotry and AN OBSESSION FOR CONTROL AND DOMINANCE.
nedlud
I have some sweet bell pepper seeds I can share if anyone would like some.
Think about this for an outline of a plan:
Maybe a distribution center where we would ship our seeds and have an account where a value is given to seeds, root stock (Jerusalem Artichokes, Asparagus, etc.), and then one could turn in their credits to trade for something they need. Maybe a yearly fee for the membership and to help with costs. Then eventually offer surplus seeds and roots to sell to others?
Cheers,
Gilda
Barbara, I think this is an amazing idea, and although we can, should and some do do this…having it through a broader network such as FarmWars increases the diversity and sharing. How about a seperate site with a link from FarmWars where we can go and see what is listed….and list our own. Those who want to may then contact others and exchange seeds etc directly…site would need a ” maintenance person” though. I’d be happy to link to such a site and I’m pretty sure that most of us with web sites would do the right thing and link freely….
It is imperative to keep many endangered seeds out in public domain like artemisia annua, comfrey and nigella sativa, to name a few.
For all of us, I think is very important to know how to fight in court — when some judge creates a mess and try to mitigate your case and “invent” some argument and finally you lose. And I believe many lawyers don’t know the trick to scare the judge or win him on appeal if you lost your case.
See PhD Richard I. Fine on http://www.fulldiscosure.net and he can explain how to disqualify a judge.
Maybe on GMO matters and so it can help, right?
Some Quotes:
“It is not the function of our government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the government from falling into error.”
–Robert Jackson, Supreme Court Decision
“Just as it is the duty of all men to obey just laws, so it is the duty of all men to disobey unjust laws”
–Martin Luther King Jr.
“Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable; and to give the appearance of solidity to pure wind.”
–George Orwell, Author and Jornalist
“The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to him. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.”
— George Bernard Shaw, Writer
“A man who is nor afraid is not aggressive, a man who has no sense of fear of any kind is really a free, a peaceful man.”
–Jiddu Krishnamurti
“In obedience there is always fears, and fear darkens the mind.”
–Krishnamurti
“Liberty cannot be preserved without general knowledge among the people.”
–John Adams, 2nd. USA Pres.
Try looking up the Seedy Sunday group in the UK. They might have some useful tips and ideas for your venture.
http://www.seedysunday.org/
I LOVE the peer to peer transactions that happen on craigs list. I’ve bought and sold stuff on craigs list and I’ve been really happy with the results. Ahhh, “the seedy ladies list” we could turn up the racy nature and really get into exotic landrace lineages! I also have jerusalem artichokes that I have been harvesting all winter if anybody wants some perenial sunflower roots.
saving heirloom seeds is an excellent idea! I think you will get a great response! We must rely on ourselves and to help each other through these dangerous times.
God Bless.
Here’s a idea that will help others exchange seeds and services. Everyone could organize their own group in their community and give a helping hand to others in need. Check out how it works.
http://timebanks.org/
Hi Marguerite. Barbara asked the same question. We are working on this now, and any input is appreciated. We are thinking of an online service where seed swappers can list what they have and engage in peer to peer transactions with each other.
Good question, Barbara, and one that we are working on right now. We are thinking of an online service where seed swappers can list what they have and engage in peer to peer transactions with each other.
I love this idea. My daughter is starting to plant vegeables and herbs. How would this work?
Thanks
What a great idea! How would it work? Would you just offer any seeds you have on this website in a posting?
Excelent idea. Let’s do that and avoid GMO.
I think this is a great idea. The more seed sharing/swapping the better. We need to produce as much of our own food as we can for as long as we can.
It’s a lovely graphic and to celebrate I want to offer some seeds I’ve saved from past harvests. I have breadseed poppies and hollihocks and red swiss chard seeds that might make other than red offspring. I also think I might have some green rhubarb seed and sugar snap peas all dried and ready to plant. I’d like to send them to Barbara (because she works so hard) but if she is willing to send them somewhere else I’ll take that cue. The seeds are free but the shipping isn’t so Whoever wants to pay for shipping gets these limmited quanity seeds.