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Barbara H. Peterson
I had a dream around two weeks ago. I saw four horses milling around together, rearing, snorting, and charging. The most distinct one was the white one, with the red, black, and pale ones in the background. Then I saw a tank come straight at me, and then I woke up. When I saw the horses I thought Apocalypse. When I saw the tank, I didn’t know what to think. I do now. I believe that this dream foretold what is to come. The four horses are here, they are active right now, and the war machine is rolling that will take out a good portion of the earth. No, I was not afraid in my dream, and I am not afraid now.
If this is Scripture coming to fulfillment, then I will trust in my Creator to safeguard me through it all and lead me to do what is necessary. I write this to those who have ears to hear and eyes to see. Prepare….
Apocalyptic Times
As a student of Scripture, it has become quite apparent to me that the question of the day is, are we living in Apocalyptic times as envisioned by the writers of ancient texts such as the Bible, or are the series of events that are unfolding as I type just mere coincidences with no connection to Scripture or significance to what is known in Biblical circles as end time events?
If you believe like I do that Biblical Scripture has significance and is not simply a book to be cast aside as having no useful value, then you are probably asking yourself that very same question. So, let’s take a little stroll down Scripture lane and compare what we see to what is happening right now. Are the four horsemen of the Apocalypse here, or are they awaiting some future time to appear?
The Four Horsemen
The following verses are taken from the KJV (King James Version) of the Bible:
Rev. 6:1 – And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, come and see.
Rev. 6:2 – And I saw, and behold, a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
This horse represents a position of power and leadership – One that is equipped to engage in war and conquest.
Rev. 6:3 – And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, come and see.
Rev. 6:4 – And there went out another horse that was red and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
This horse represents the ability to make war and remove peace from the earth. How long have we been hearing that in order to have peace we must bomb the life out of everyone and everything anywhere people exist that disagree with our politics? Just how long have we as a country been engaged in war for peace?
Rev. 6:5 – And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, come and see. And I beheld, and lo a Black horse, and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
Rev. 6:6 – And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, a measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
Let’s go to a word search for the meanings of the words “measure” and “penny:”
Penny: Strong’s NT 1220: denarion – from Latin – a denarius, or ten asses.
Measure: Strong’s NT 5518: choinix – of uncertain derivation; a dry measure
So, the exact measure of wheat is uncertain, but in the NIV (New International Version) of the Bible, it is translated as “quart.”
According to these verses then, a quart of wheat goes for an amount equal to the price of ten asses, and three quarts of barley for the same amount. Pretty spendy. Although not quite there yet, it appears that food prices are on the rise, and with the impending war on Syria, we can expect them to go even higher.
Rev. 6:7 – And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, come and see.
Rev. 6:8 – And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill [Strong’s 615: to kill outright or figuratively to destroy] with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
That is self-explanatory. There will be lots of destruction going on, and a fourth part of the earth will be destroyed along with its inhabitants.
Okay, let’s see what we have so far – Four horses, and four pronouncements:
1. The White horse, representing leadership – one that is equipped to engage in war and conquest.
2. The Red horse, representing the power to engage in war and take peace from the earth.
3. The Black horse, representing a huge increase in price resulting in a shortage of food for those who cannot afford it.
4. The Pale horse, destroying a fourth part of the earth with sword, hunger and death.
Connecting the Dots
Now let’s connect a few dots, assuming that these verses are prophecy.
We can already see that the White and Red horses are working amongst us. We are poised on the brink of yet another war for conquest in Syria, which is merely another nation that the U.S. government has decided needs to be bombed into oblivion, and we are on the fast track to do that now. The plan is in motion, and the only thing needed is the order to do it. We have been in a constant state of aggressive warfare for years, and it is only getting worse.
The Black horse has been steadily increasing its influence in the realm of food freedom grabs such as Monsanto’s grip on the food supply via seed patenting, people facing huge fines and jail time for merely attempting to grow some of their own food, bans on raw milk and its distribution, and the war on clean, organic food grown without deadly pesticides and GMOs (genetically modified organisms). We can also face a huge increase in prices of everything due to the pending war in Syria.
The Pale horse has entered the gate also, and is steadily gaining momentum through food shortages, food monopolies, wars, water pollution, and catastrophes such as Fukushima.
So, are we merely waiting for these prophecies to start, or are we already there, smack dab in the middle of them? I think we are already there, and it is only a matter of time before the Pale horse is fully out of the gate and on its way to the finish line.
The time for preparation is now. If you believe in Scripture and are waiting for these prophecies to begin, you are too late. They are being fulfilled as I type, and are on the ground running. If you don’t believe in Biblical Scripture as anything but an historical book, then you will still find the revelations contained therein strikingly similar to current events. In any case, it is time to take a good, hard look at what is going on around us and do some planning for future survival.
©2013 Barbara H. Peterson
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@ Rick.
That’s awesome about white horse, I agree with you as well. The word that throws everyone is the “conquering”. We tend to think of that as military aggression; however, that is the only time in the ENTIRE Bible that you will find the word conquering.
And there is alot of battles and fights to not be using that word more often, so have to take it into context and that’s exactly what is all about DECEPTION.
Hey Adam,
Context is everything in scripture, and I did quick cursory look through the gospels and did not see this event you are speaking of but does sound familiar that I may have read before.
The only temple references I found was Jesus speaking of no stone left etc. That will happen when Mystery Babylon (aka Jerusalem) is destroyed to make room for the new Jerusalem descending to earth in Rev: 21
Many assume that event is when Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 A.D. I believe it was. That’s not the event Jesus was speaking of cause not every stone was turned so to speak. There is still a wall in Israel today called the wailing wall from that original city.
If you can provide the scripture you are speaking of I’d be glad to help you out with it. However, I will say that if it’s Jesus speaking of himself, your body theory would be accurate. The temple he’s speaking of would be his own body and then of course it’s resurrected 3 days later, hence the temple being rebuilt in 3 days.
Of course, I’d like to know exactly which scripture you are speaking of before I’d 100% commit to that answer.
If you continue reading the chapter where it says that Christ will come like a “thief in the night” it says (paraphrasing) but NOT TO THE FOLLOWERS WHO KNOW THE SIGNS…..
Barbara Peterson said:
Okay, let’s see what we have so far – Four horses, and four pronouncements:
1. The White horse, representing leadership – one that is equipped to engage in war and conquest.
You got the other three correct but not the white horse. Most people get this one wrong. The white horse represents religious deception which Jesus Christ warned would take over the world after His departure. And it surely has as the world of religion is filled with both deception and confusion. Jesus Christ founded one church, His one, true church. NOT hundreds of different churches with differing beliefs.
Since there are some very learned biblical scholars commenting on this please allow me to ask a question..
With all the genetic hanky-panky going on what are the chances that the temple, as spoken of in end time propecy, is NOT the physical stone building but is the temple that Jesus was talking about when he told the Pharisees He would rebuild it in three days: OUR BODIES?!?
thanks in advance
Magen-
As a sufferer of “morgellons”, Deuteronomy chapter 28, beginning at verse 15 really hits home. Here the writer (Moses) relays what God is going to unleash on those who turn away from Him, and it describes PERFECTLY what is happening with this “disease” …
God WILL punish ALL for the sins of some… He did it during the chosen peoples conquest of other cities – one of the warriors stole some loot and hit it in his home which started a losing streak by the chosen ones…
@Anna…meant to respond to one last thing about the thief in the night.
When would you least expect for Christ to appear on the scene as a thief in the night?
Answer: When you think he’s already here.
Hence, the importance of realizing the 1st supernatural being to come to earth is Satan as antichrist, not a fictional rapture etc.
@ Anna.
Absolutely Anna, couldn’t agree more. No man knows the date, BUT we are to know the season. I would speculate many sense the season is near and are thereby looking for answers. The Holy Spirit is poured out in this time as well, many are waking to the fact that something is going on.
I don’t mean to come off as combative, but I do tend to get involved when rapture comes up and here’s why.
It would not be a difficult feat for the 2nd beast(satan) to have some world leader from the first beast (NwO), appear to be the infamous antichrist. Most christians assume it’s a man already, instead of Satan himself.
Well, when Satan comes on the scene at the 5th trump and let’s say he Kills this “antichrist” person. Everyone will naturally assume it’s Jesus taking care of the bad guy and is here to save the day. Would not be hard to get Christains to worship him then, would it?
Remember, the deception is great and you can see why.
God Bless you.
Hey Terri,
I still have to respectfully disagree with you on this. God came meekly the first time and they killed him. Now, yes, God is a very loving God however, this time it’s to clean house and set things right.
I have no fear as you say you can sense that, yes, it is troubling but ultimately I know how it plays out and no where I am headed if I die before the end. This fleshly body is only temporary BUT this fleshly earth age is required for a reason. I will probably speak about things you have not heard but I can document it all Biblically. One needs to answer the ago old question of WHY are we here? Well here it is.
IT’s to choose a side.
God’s Bible the KJV is his word holy spirit inspired through his apostles to be written to us. Yes, words have changed drastically with all these other “newer” bible versions. THis only leads more confusion to the masses and is by design. Follow the money trail on who actually owns the copyrights on these Bibles to get the culprits behind it. You have to change a book drastically in order to copyright and profit from it. One also needs a Concordance to be able to contextually tell the meaning of the words, cause some hebrew/greek words simply do not have 100% english meanings.
Examples: hateth is used alot in the Bible, it simply means to love less, not the actual HATE of english.
Earth: means partitive of land, country, nation, etc. Much like Noahs flood was NOT the entire Earth, anymore than when Cain was banished from the face of the EARTH. Obviously Cain did not leave the planet, so you have to take the context of what’s being said and apply accordingly.
I’ll just tap on this for a second but if you look up Proverbs 30:20 you will see a VERY interesting context of the word “to EAT”. Use that context in the Garden of Eden story and it will make alot more sense. Trust me, God did not punish mankind for choosing the wrong produce, there’s alot more to it than that.
Now, suppose you had 3 children. However one of those children is constantly causing you grief and strife. It’s not unreasonable to assume you will love that child less than the other two. Now God made us in his image, so he would have emotions like us as well.
There was a previous earth age before this one. It is mentioned in two places in the Bible, one being 2 Peter 3: 5-10
It mentions the first age (in our spiritual bodies), the present one (fleshly bodies), and the one to come (spiritual bodies again). In the first Earth age satan rebels and convinces 1/3 of God angels to join him. Hence, my 3 child analogy earlier.
(on a side not, the 1st age was destroyed by water, hence God parting the water is Genesis to make way for this fleshly age. this is NOT the same flood as Noah)
Now God has a problem, what to do with 1/3 of his children. He is ever so fair, and that’s what this age is for. Keeping it simple, but can much more in depth if needed.
The earth is millions of years old, there were dinosaurs (mentioned in Job), all of this is of the first age. This is why they find tools of an existing culture but not actual proof of people. As far as dude’s comments of UFO and the like, of course they are real, but they are not extra terrestrial beings. Satan is the prince of the power of the air, that’s his domain and he and his demons are busy being portrayed as such.
Our society is being conditioned to accept the fact that extra terrestrial beings are real, hence all the armageddon type movies and super beings.
It is of my opinion, that when Christ is actually coming back and the armies of the world gather to fight him, it’s because the earthly inhabitants have been sold on the fact that we are under alien invasion. IT’s the perfect scenario to unite the Earth and Satan (posing as Christ) leading the way to save us.
Satan knows how this ends and he is the only one right now that is doomed, hence the son of perdition. Many have died but none are judged until the judgment day, so where they end up is God’s call. Satan’s goal, and his only chance, is to try to get as many of God’s children as he can in the hopes that God changes his mind. Alas, it won’t happen as the Bible let’s us know, but I guess you can’t blame Satan for trying.
I could keep going on,but it’s getting long. I can get more detailed on any aspect if asked. God Bless and good day.
Greg,
Do you remember the Kindergarten school game when a whisper was shared ear to ear, kid to kid? At the end, the last kid would stand up and say what he had heard?
Was it ever what was said in the beginning?
(Gods word has been changed in The Bible. Words were twisted and replaced with others to have entirely other meanings, to keep followers in line, in step, under control and in fear.) Impossible that this one book, survived this world for hundreds/thousands of years, to this day 2013, in its original format, as was meant by its Creator, to me anyway).
We can look forward to all these terrible, horrible, awful, depressing things & events coming our way and expend our energy getting ready to die or….we can find our knees, make peace with God and trust that our Father is going to take care of us now and Forever. We can hope & pray our Father is ready and Enough IS Enough. It is time for us to clean up our messes, we made them. (sounds parental!)
I have never been compared to Eve before. I feel that you are very wrong, but, you and I will know down the road, what God has decided and what is in store for all of us. I see Christ rising again in each face of resistant/questioning people standing up against evil. I see people all over the world changing and not wanting anymore death, torture, suffering, hunger, thirst, spiritual emptiness or war any more, EVER. (Mothers have just given enough in the name of power, ego and killing. God hears their prayers, I know he does).
I believe God is feeling hopeful and pleased with us. We are waking up and showing up in front of him in our prayers all day every day all over the world. The 2nd coming is Jesus opening up and healing our hearts, not some grand vision of a human form in the sky or hell fire entrance onto the world scene. He is arriving softly & gently via the heart, where love resides in each person, breathing on this planet, to create great change. Greg, do you not see his work taking place? One person (child) at a time, one country at a time, one prayer for peace at a time.
I would never kill billions of my children. I will never believe that is who Heavenly Father truly is. Then what would be the purpose for destroying such a beautiful planet? Did he not do that once before with Noah and his arc? God the destroyer, I happen to think not. I think he wants to save all of us and this sorely damaged and polluted planet this time.
I feel your fear Greg. I also felt that many times over the last 3 years, a whole range of emotions. I was made to think through many confusing things I could not make sense of, no explanation made sense to me before. Do you feel that I am no longer entertaining fear in any fashion any longer but I have faith in God and all his wonders. That is what Ascension has done for me. It has given me hope & inspiration instead of despair.
Satan? There is no room for him in my life, thoughts or actions. Do you hear him in my kind words? He is not there. I leave Satan up to a very capable and wise Heavenly Father to contend with, in Gods timing. It took me 3 years of daily full time studying to reach this point of finding some type of hope for the future. (It was quite a journey. I didn’t expect to find anything, life wasn’t really worth living any longer to me. Everywhere I looked I was deeply disappointed or mislead most deeply by those who professed to love me. What is so bad about realizing that God loves me? I finally got it, but still must work on it daily, this doesn’t come easily for me. God loves me, why would he destroy me then?
By the way, Chinese medicine has been around a very long time as has acupuncture or Spinal adjustments, herbal supplements, alternative therapies etc… and have been good for many people. Ascension has been coming for a long time, it is over due actually. There is no reason why Ascension is not just as authentic and real today as it was eons ago. We still use the same charts of the stars from long ago.
This is NOW. Open up and explore this topic. There is more to know and I believe a smile will cross your face remembering our talk here today.
No Fear Greg!!!
God bless you.
After reading so many of these replies , it amazes me that no one brings out the scripture which says that no one knows the day or the hour not even Jesus knows, only The Father knows. we try to figure out Gods time table, the rapture, ect. maybe that’s why there is so much controversy on Revelations. But you know, if you’re lamps are filled with oil and you’re candle is burning when Jesus DOES come back, you will not have to worry about dates or times or future events….JUST BE READY! IT’S that simple (Like a child’s simple faith, which without no one can see the Father) don’t confuse it. If you’re Truly walking with The Lord you will know (will hear the trumpet when it sounds) He will come as a thief in the night. Maybe Revelations is to send out Gods Message to us to JUST BE READY, and tell others to JUST BE READY.
@ Terri.
Yikes!…you need to run, not walk, from those teachings. Yes, there are lots of planetary things going on, and helps to explain all the mysterious planetary things that happens in some of these judgment mentioned in REvelations.
What he’s teaching is nothing new. That teaching is one of the oldest in the Bible. IT’s the modus operandi of Satan.
Read Genesis 3:3-5
He used that exact lie to entice Eve to gain “knowledge of the gods”.
I believe, the Bible was changed many times from what the lessons were originally. (I always questioned the lack of interesting women in the Bible personally). I know many lived back then with the men but few made it into this book, why?
What if, God has witnessed life on Earth (1000’s of years) and has found his original thoughts had to be completely changed to reflect now, right NOW. I believe God most definitely can change his mind.
What if, God wants all inhabitants of this beautiful lovely blue planet(his children), and the planet herself to survive? What father destroys their child’s home and takes their life? God is a loving God, but not portrayed as such in the Bible. He sounds vengeful, fearful and destructive. This is not what I would expect of a Grand Creator and makes no sense to me.
Please learn for yourself that much fear is mentioned here and on other sites. Fear just feeds into more fear. This Bible was written/rewritten to keep control over the masses and this has worked very well, but fear feeds more fear which is the opposite of Love.
God is Love. NO MORE FEAR IS MY MOTTO THESE DAYS!
I do not believe most of the terrible prophecies in this man-made Bible which we have today. It lacks truth I feel, it rings false to me. This Bible was adapted by men, into another lower dense light, to control and to misguide mankind in a whole other direction than was originally intended.
The rapture/2nd coming/End of times is here, right Now, in this NOW time. However, it is not going to be as many believe and have believed. It is to be so much grander than the human mind can conceive of and it is on its way right now to us all.
Ascension…None of this terrible stuff is going to happen. Please, find hope, inspiration, patience and faith in God by learning just what Ascension actually is. It is not just us as humans on Earth, but also Earth herself who is in the midst of great changes after 1000 years. Planetary alignments that have not happened in thousands of years is happening right now.
Steve Beckow is a most wonderful place to begin to read about Ascension.
Be ready for more than your brain can deal with once you dip your toe into this realm of God’s creation. I promise you, your dark thoughts and worries will change in the most drastic manner. Your range of emotions is going to get worked up as the puzzle pieces begin to fall into a puzzle of incomparable complexity. Your going to absolutely experience revelations and get answers to so many questions.
Good luck to you who will go deeper down that old rabbit hole to find truth. Your in such good company and NO FEAR!
Sent with love from my heart to all suffering and worrying.
Something else I neglected to mention and don’t believe it’s been mentioned in any other posts, is that to have a better understanding of prophecy, and the Bible for that matter, you have to know who the players are.
Most Christians I speak with, when asked, will say that Israel mentioned in the Bible is the same nation we know as Israel today.
This is completely wrong and false, and leads to much confusion. This is, of course, by design as it helps with the misleading with Satan arrives on the scene and the fact that Jerusalem is Mystery Babylon.
When you see Israel it is speaking of the tribes of people as a whole that are the sons of Jacob, whose name was changed to Israel. It’s these 12 sons that make up the whole House of Israel. Eventually those tribes split into a northern kingdom (10 tribes) and a southern kingdom (Judah and Benjamin. On a side not that’s where the twelve tribes of 12k, for the 144k come from in Revelation.
So House of Judah is the southern kingdom, and the 10 tribes were “lost”. Well they weren’t lost, God forbid, they were scattered around the world to the isles and coastways.
The “jewish” religion of today has nothing to do with Israelites from the Bible. Jesus was called a Jew cause he was from the tribe of Judah. Biblically speaking, a jew back in the day was either from the tribe of Judah or from Judea. That’s it. There was no jewish religion.
The jewish religion of today is similar to what the Pharisses/Sadducces of Jesus time were. Hence, Jesus calling them out in John 8:44. (Lineage of the people of Cain, Kenites. That’s another topic altogether, so will leave it at that.)
It’s written all over 1 John and 2 John that anyone not believing Christ came in the flesh is of the spirit of the antichrist.
Why do you think in Rev 2:9 and Rev 3:9, Jesus is warning us to beware of those that say they are Jews but are NOT?
This may sound blasphemous to many, as most assume Jews are the holy chosen people, and they are not. Now those actually from the tribe of Judah are part of the chosen Israelites, but most of those in modern day Israel now have very LITTLE if any “jewish” blood in them. They are imposters, that have hijacked the Israel name.
It’s quite ironic, that the mighty Christian nations, who are to be warned of the Antichrist and endtimes, are actually enabling us to get their even quicker, by being the military force to enable the NWO to come to fruition. As we systematically eliminate any resistance to the “global elite/bankers” one country at a time, til all concede to the New World Order.
American and Great Britain (who are Manasseh and Ephraim in scripture) will concede as well once the economic world crash occurs. Long story for another post.
don’t forget the 5th horseman of the apocalypse …
Rev 19:11
@Phil
Those are good solid arguments to defend your position but Barbara is correct about no rapture. You are seeing that there are problems with what the main stream mega churches are teaching on it as well. They do have to drastically contort scripture. The fact that the “rapturers” cannot even agree with their pre, mid and post rapture theories should put up a red flag for all involved.
Barbara already talked about the 1 Thess and the other big verse is 1 Cor 15:52. Well it specifically says in that verse at the last trump. The last trump is the 7th trump of revelation and is the 2nd coming of Christ.
Follow along with Matt. Ch 24 and Revelation pretty much follows along with that. The white horse is most likely one of the agencies or entities of the 1st beast of Ch 13 (NWO or world gov). In greek/hebrew the word HE translated from them has no gender implied. Technically it could be a HE, SHE, even an IT, so the he used is most likely some entity that will unite the nations in some form. Now keep in mind that the 2nd beast (satan)of Ch 13 controls the 1st beast (nwo) from heaven.
Now here is the great news and will help make more sense to the scriptures. The orignal tribulation period of 7 years is shortened to 3.5 years then an additional 5 months. This can be done without conflicting with old testament prophecy because the old testament uses the times, times and 1/2 a time stuff. Doesn’t say of what 1/2 of time to use etc.
Now in Matt 24:22 Jesus says except those days should be SHORTENED, there should no flesh be saved etc.
Now Jesus is not talking of death here, he is talking of literally being saved. The next verses speak of now worshiping “antichrists”. Basically the deception will be so great that even the very elect would not be able to avoid worshiping the wrong guy if it were to continue on.
The 5th trump is the actual arrival of Satan himself posing as the antichrist. He will reign for 5 months, lowered from initial 3.5 years. This is even reiterated in Rev 12:12, stating he hath but a short time.
I’ll try to keep this short but here is a basic summary of what goes down. Keep in mind that Mystery Babylon is JERUSALEM. It’s referred to as that “great city” numerous times in Revelation. Rev 11:8 100% nails it down for you saying that great city where our Lord and Savior was crucified.
As I said in an earlier post the two witness are the key to the beginning of tribulation, in my opinion. They witness for 3.5 years, but are then killed by Antichrist. But in 11:7 the beast that ASCENDETH out of the bottomless pit kills them. That beast is 5th trump Rev 9:2. YOu will also notice that the powers that the witnesses possess kind of match up with the blood/water trump judgments.
Anti means opposite in english but IMPOSTER in hebrew/greek. The antichrist is NOT a person it is SATAN himself arriving on the scene and he has but 5 short months left to do his business.
Keep in mind this is all about deception, Satan wants us to worship him and many of us Christians will. Hence Jesus shortening the “great” tribulation from 3.5 years to 5 months. All that scorpion stuff is God using nature as he often does, to explain something to us. The prey of scorpions are focused on the scorpions pinchers and mouth, but the danger is in the tail.
Once stung, the prey is dissolved from within from the poison in the tail. Kind of how we would be ruined from within if we end up worshiping Satan when Christ returns. Hence the verse about leaving the grass and trees alone, you can’t deceive grass and trees.
Everything flows in order seals, trumps and then the vials occur literally “hours” before end of 7th trump.
Notice in Rev 11:19 about the temple opening up then there is a COLON, then talks about lightnings,voices, thunderlings quake and great hail.
Now jump to Rev 15:8 talks of the vial judgments and no MAN can enter the temple until the 7 plagues be fulfilled. Rev 16:17-21 the 7th vial summarizes the ligntings, thunderlings, quake and great hail mentioned in Rev 11:19
All the other chapters of revelation are either parenthetical or greater detailed explanations of events having occurred earlier. Trying to keep this short or I’d explain all of them.
I have put together a verse by verse interpretaion of Revelation for anyone that wants it. There are some parts I’m not sure of and I state that in the outline. Would love some help, if after reading you have some idea of what it could be.
Barbara,
The problem with the pre-mid-post-none rapture argument is that none of them identify the term “trib” when in fact what they are referring to is the 70th Week of Daniel. Neither do any identify where in Revelation it appears the 70th Week Begins. It is the most specific measured period of time in bible prophecy with beginning, mid and end points identified, and the length is given in years, months and days.
The 70th Week begins with the confirming of the covenant (Dan 9:27). That results in the building of the Third Temple. The Temple is first mentioned when it is measured in R11. Q: When do you measure a building? A: When it is built. It seems the Temple is newly built at the start of R11.
Many are confused with the Revelation time-line because they believe the White Horse Rider is the Anti-Christ. That forces all sorts of unnatural contortions to make the Seals of the Scroll, and the Trumpets and the Bowls (Vials) all occur within a short 7-year time frame.
But is the White Horse Rider the Anti-Christ? The only justification I’ve heard is because Satan wants to imitate Jesus’s arrival in R19. But when you remove the assumption and allow that the WHR may NOT be the Anti-Christ, then the Seals of the Scroll do no have to occur within the 70th Week.
Pre-mid-post-none debaters all ignore the uncountable multitude in R7. They are NOT martyrs completing the number from the 5th Seal. Read the description of that multitude for yourself. The martyrs are completed in R20. Those in R20 are the ones who are killed for not receiving the Mark of the Beast. Those in R7 are Raptured.
If there is no Rapture, then you must evade the NWO for the entire 70th Week or be killed by it.
Phil
A bit on the Pre-Tribulation rapture theory – it is not Scriptural.
Ideas in Scripture are presented in agricultural concepts. For instance, Matthew 13: 26-40 states that the tares will be growing in the field with the wheat, and gathered and burned after the wheat is mature. The wheat is harvested after this.
The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
This specifically states that the tares (children of the wicked one) are gathered first, then the wheat (children of the kingdom)will be harvested. It doesn’t get any plainer than that.
The only verse that people use to attempt to substantiate a pre-tribulation rapture is:
1Th 4:17 – Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
However, if you read the verses before this, specifically:
1Th 4:15 – For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
This also states “we which are alive and remain.” Pre-tribulation rapture theory is wishful thinking and not based on Scripture.
Salutations, good having faith…but…those horrors have not to happen necessarely…there is place for HOPE with our eternal Father. Sodome & Gomorrhe had not a hundred,, not fifty, not ten, even not one real vertuous man…I seen along my long life and now on, people like God, whatever name we call Him, reckognises His created sons. I have Faith and Hope that our Father will be more than happy to protect the flesh He creates if our conscience continue to elevate.A gg-mother,who wishes all of us…peace and serenity.Billie
Hey Billybones III
I would like to get acquainted with your friend! We have the same view on the Horses. It’d be interesting to compare notes.
Phil
These are most assuredly prophetic scriptures but please don’t rush into a conclusion that they refer to anything in our time. If you believe the scriptures then you must understand that these events occur after the rapture of the church.
What we see happening now is a picnic compared to what is to come after the rapture.(Yes, I’m pre-trib)
I have a close friend who believes the first and second horse of Revelation are now loose on the earth. Not so! God’s timetable is much slower than ours. We’re in a hurry, He’s not!
Many prophecies must be fulfilled yet before the dreadful Day of the Lord! I believe it will be dreadful so for the sake of many riding on the fence, I okay with His tarrying.
For those who want a more detailed account of this prophecies and how we are currently living in the endtimes and more on the truth to the post-tribulation rapture please look into Irvin Baxter. He is doing God’s work to inform the masses of the prophecies in the bible. Please visit http://www.endtime.com
I have no affiliation with this website. God Bless you all!!!
P.S.
ANY and ALL reading/trying to understand my comments, take note that they were written in consecutive order and begin with my first on the bottom and up from there. I’m typing this on a PS3 and it only allows so many charachters per message.
P.S.S
“KNOW YOUR ENEMY”
Barbara,
I believe Revelation 6 is the Beginning of Sorrows. The events parallel the events described in Matt 24 & Luke 21. The prophecy is about Israel, not the US.
I believe the White Horse is Barack Obama. He is a muzlum who is taking down the allies of Israel, primarily the US.
The Red is the “Arab Spring”
The Black is the soon arriving global financial colappse
The Pale is the resulting Death from the previoous three.
Interestingly the New World Order as described in Revelation consists of a one world governmnet, (White), a one world forced religion (Red) and one world economic system (Black) and Death (Pale) for those who do not comply. The horses are the implementation of the NWO.
If Syria gets attacked, they may relatiate against Israel. Damascus gets wiped out overnight (Isaiah 17) That enrages Israel’s neighbors and they attack (Psalm 83 War). Israel retaliates and wipes out the attackers, and expands it’s borders to the Euphrates in the east to the Nile in the west. This is the land covenant granted by God to Abraham. The prince who is to come confirms that covenant (Dan 9;27) starting the 70th Week of Daniel on Rosh Hashanah, possibly as soon as 2014, or if delayed 2016.
There are some weird things happening in the 6th Seal that could camoflage the Rapture (massive earthquake and resultant tsunami) which is depcted in the second part of Chapter 7. This would allow those who are left behind to deny the Rapture. (2Thes 2:11-12)
Phil
thetimeofthesigns.com
For the BEST MODERN PICTURE that this (G-ds 4 Dreadful Judgements) are exactly being played out, that “BARBARA” and the OTHER CHRISTIANS are RIGHT THIS TIME “DAMMERUNG” —
Might I suggest (after reading all my comments below starting with the BOTTOM one) – watching ALL videos on “FIDOKAVE213” Youtube Channel. And then the one’s on HIS new CHANNEL “SEVENTHVIAL213”. Another good one on Youtube is “Hawk Davis” Channel!
START WITH THIS ONE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWFnBcQG4zc
Jer 25:32
32 This is what the Lord Almighty says:
“Look! Disaster is spreading
from nation to nation;
a mighty storm is rising
from the ends of the earth.”
33 At that time those slain by (By His 4 Dreadful Judgements) the Lord will be everywhere—from one end of the earth to the other. They will not be mourned or gathered up or buried, but will be like dung lying on the ground.
Jesus is coming SOON!!!
Speaking of the End and concerning the Whole World (And G-ds 4 Dreadful Judgements) – G-d in Rev 6 uses Horses so Symbolize exactly HOW these things will begin to take place and then be spread as if being taken by a Horseman/Messenger from One Nation to another – like the spread of a fire). This Concept/Message is made more clear by reading/studying ALL scripture concerning the End (To much to list) – BUT ONE PERFECT EXAMPLE would be Jer 25:15-33, but especially Verse 32 which states:
Jer 25:32-33 – ” This is what the Lord Almighty says:
“Look! Disaster is spreading
from nation to nation;
a mighty storm is rising
from the ends of the earth.”
33 At that time those slain by the Lord will be everywhere—from one end of the earth to the other. They will not be mourned or gathered up or buried, but will be like dung lying on the ground.”
Here’s a little Catholicism to throw in the mix. I’m neither Protestant not Catholic but I do find some truth in both. In the third Fatima prophecy (which has nothing to do with the Catholic hierarchy) it was repeated three times that Syria holds the key to peace and to prevent WW III. Before we had no idea what that meant but now – it seems to makes more sense.
“Wars are a punishment for man’s sins. Syria holds the key to peace at that time….”
Now Amos 4 (As well as all OT scripture) explains the How and Why of G-ds dealings with His “COVENANTED” Israel (They were chosen and made a deal/contract with Him at Horeb – See Ex 24:3-4), but broke the Contract by “Prostituting with Foreign/False/Pagan Idols and gods/demons”, spreading sin/INJUSTICE throughout their land and were eventually met with G-ds 4 Dreadful Judgements and (Not Turning) destruction (By the “WILD/PAGAN BEAST” – Armies of Babylon 586 BC, and then again by those of Rome 70/135 AD).
Prophetic Scriptures that speak about the “END TIMES” tell how G-d (Being Fed-Up with the Lawlessnes/Injustice/Sin) of the Whole World (Divorce, Lieing, Greed, Violence, Sex, Drugs and Rock-N-ROLL Et Al) will finally EXTEND HIS 4 Dreadful Judgements TO EVERY NATION and ALL Mankind!!!
Amos 4:4-12 (Cont’d)
8 People staggered from town to town for water
but did not get enough to drink,
yet you have not returned to me,”
declares the Lord.
9 “Many times I struck your gardens and vineyards,
destroying them with blight and mildew.
Locusts devoured your fig and olive trees,
yet you have not returned to me,”
declares the Lord.
10 “I sent plagues among you
as I did to Egypt.
I killed your young men with the sword,
along with your captured horses.
I filled your nostrils with the stench of your camps,
yet you have not returned to me,”
declares the Lord.
11 “I overthrew some of you
as I overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.
You were like a burning stick snatched from the fire,
yet you have not returned to me,”
declares the Lord.
12 “Therefore this is what I will do to you, Israel,
and because I will do this to you, Israel,
prepare to meet your God.”
For further understanding, one only needs read how (And Why) G-d brought these (His 4 Dreadful Judgements/Woe’s) in successive bouts against Israel (In an attempt to get their attention and return to HIM – and JUSTICE) in
Amos 4:4-12
4 “Go to Bethel (CHURCH) and sin;
go to Gilgal (CHURCH) and sin yet more.
Bring your sacrifices every morning,
your tithes every three years.[c]
5 Burn leavened bread as a thank offering
and brag about your freewill offerings—
boast about them, you Israelites,
for this is what you love to do,”
declares the Sovereign Lord.
6 “I gave you empty stomachs in every city
and lack of bread in every town,
yet you have not returned to me,”
declares the Lord.
7 “I also withheld rain from you
when the harvest was still three months away.
I sent rain on one town,
but withheld it from another.
One field had rain;
another had none and dried up.
SO – With study/research, one finds that the (4 Judgements/Plagues of G-d are:
1. Famine
2. Wild Beast (= Godless Barbarians, not animals, such as War/Islam, Columbine/Sandy Hook etc)
3. Sword (Of the Lord) = Natural Disasters such as Joplin Ms., Oklahoma City, Tuskaloosa, Al TORNADOES, Katrina, Superstorm Sandy Etc.
4. Plague (H1N1, Swine/Bird Flu, Disease and Pandemics)
Now compare Rev 6:8
8 I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth. (The 4 Judgements/Plagues of G-d)
We are living in the book of Revelation (Apocolypse) at the moment. We will see the second coming in our lifetime. While all these bad things have existed in past never on this global level. Corruption greed, crime of every nature. You need to prepare spiritually for what is about to happen. Only 2 sides Good and Evil….you choose (free will). See the messages being sent to humanity by our savior. http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/home/
3. (Ez 14:12-23 Cont’d)
18 as surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Lord, even if these three men were in it, they could not save their own sons or daughters. They alone would be saved.
19 “Or if I send a plague into that land and pour out my wrath on it through bloodshed, killing its people and their animals, 20 as surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Lord, even if Noah, Daniel and Job were in it, they could save neither son nor daughter. They would save only themselves by their righteousness.
21 “For this is what the Sovereign Lord says: How much worse will it be when I send against Jerusalem my FOUR (4) dreadful judgments—sword and famine and wild beasts and plague—to kill its men and their animals! 22 Yet there will be some survivors—sons and daughters who will be brought out of it. They will come to you, and when you see their conduct and their actions, you will be consoled regarding the disaster I have brought on Jerusalem—every disaster I have brought on it.
3. Ez 14:12-23 (esp. Vs 21 “4 Dreadful judgements”)
12 The word of the Lord came to me: 13 “Son of man, if a country sins against me by being unfaithful and I stretch out my hand against it to cut off its food supply and send famine upon it and kill its people and their animals, 14 even if these three men—Noah, Daniel[a] and Job—were in it, they could save only themselves by their righteousness, declares the Sovereign Lord.
15 “Or if I send wild beasts through that country and they leave it childless and it becomes desolate so that no one can pass through it because of the beasts, 16 as surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Lord, even if these three men were in it, they could not save their own sons or daughters. They alone would be saved, but the land would be desolate.
17 “Or if I bring a sword against that country and say, ‘Let the sword pass throughout the land,’ and I kill its people and their animals…
2. Jer 16:1-4 – Then the word of the Lord came to me: 2 “You must not marry and have sons or daughters in this place.” 3 For this is what the Lord says about the sons and daughters born in this land and about the women who are their mothers and the men who are their fathers: 4 “They will die of deadly diseases. They will not be mourned or buried but will be like dung lying on the ground. They will perish by sword and famine, and their dead bodies will become food for the birds and the wild animals.”
A gr8 majority of Christians have never studied the Old Testament, and is why so many have no true understanding of the New —
For instance (And this not aimed at you, Ms/Mrs Barbra, more it supports your article and comments), — but, the 4 Horsemen of Revelations, as Explicitly revealed in Rev 6:8 – are EXACTLY the “4 DESTROYERS of G-d” as revealed in the following OT passages:
1. Jer 15:3 – “I will send FOUR (4) kinds of destroyers against them,” declares the Lord, “the sword to kill and the dogs to drag away and the birds and the wild animals to devour and destroy.”
I too have Morgellons Disease, though the skin eruptions are gone, it has attacked my insides, my muscles and Lungs…I can’t go to doctors and just try to take as much supplements as I can.
We are in the tribulation and all we can do now is get as close to the word as possible, help others, be honest with people, and take care of your relatives, no matter what, they are your family.
Wow to the Elite, for they have a short time left, and they will try to take as many down with them as they can.
@Dammerung…..thankfully you are around, cause you keep things in prophetic line with your comments. You are spoken of as well in prophecy.
2 Peter 3:3-4
Yes, of course all those horrible times would make one believe the apocalypse was just around the corner. As the Bible states knowledge is increased in the latter days, and parts of it that were beyond understanding are now coming to fruition.
Even as little as 50 years ago, few would understand that the whole world would see the 2 dead witnesses lying in the street, but with satellite TV and 24 hour news networks you can bet it’s a certainty now, just to name one example.
Few would of thought 50 years ago, that most nations would give up their sovereignty for a world government, but it’s rapidly approaching. Everything that happens now has global ramifications. Now New World Order, Nato, WTO, CFR and all these other alphabet world agencies are here, just a matter of setting them all in order.
Now the 1st beast of Rev 13, seems very plausible, even imminent. 7 locations of power (European union, North American Union, South American union and etc.) with 10 heads of power or leaders. (all the alphabet agencies of global leadership)
Pray for God to protect us from “Dangerous Leaders” He knows who they are so we don’t need to ….besides news is so confusing now….how could we know……So the prayer, God protect us from Dangerous Leaders wherever they are! Please spread this message.
I’m sure most of the readers here know that when Geo. H. W. Bush was in the “Skull & Bones” his name was Magog. I believe he was involved in the JFK assassination.
http://www.thecalmbeforethestorm.com/GogMagog.html
The 1933 coup had Magogs family deep in it’s roots as well. Averille Harriman, Herbert Walker, & Prescott Bush. I believe this was set up with the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. An act that was passed the day before Xmas when most of Congress was gone for the holidays.
http://downdirtyword.blogspot......l-end.html
Good read as always Barb. I do believe were at the end game.
Those that live by the “Golden Rule” I believe will be spared.
All these events have been going on all the time since man walked the earth. We can tell you about them with TV 24/7.
The Apocalypse is not one solitary incident, Dammerung. It is a series of events culminating at some time in the future. I don’t think that you caught the gist of the article ;)
Nothing is impossible with God. All the better to gird ourselves with the word of God and see “HIS” work unfold in our lives and the lives of others as a testimony of His love, light and to His glory. Watch how He provides! To wait on His strength, glory and loving kindness as it will manifest in ways we could not have dreamt. Luke 1:37
New Living Translation (NLT) 37 For nothing is impossible with God.
Footnotes:
1:37 Some manuscripts read For the word of God will never fail.
The rider of the white horse is God and the Holy spirit is the start of prophecy that must unfold before the return can happen. Christ is the ‘method’ used with the bow.
Isa:49:2:
And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword;
in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me,
and made me a polished shaft;
in his quiver hath he hid me;
The red sword is the sword given to e leaders of the Nations in Romans 13. When it is used to inflict evil on the ones it is supposed to protect it is red, Satan’s color.
The black horse is when food is hoarded by the ones who control the red sword.
The pale horse is representative of the 5th and 6th trumps, hell for 5 months and the 1/3 of the planet is killed in 1110 days. What is interest her is that 1/4 of the earth is the area affected and not the number. All the land areas make up 1/4 of the earth. Just sayin …
Jer:25:26:
And all the kings of the north,
far and near,
one with another,
and all the kingdoms of the world,
which are upon the face of the earth:
and the king of Sheshach shall drink after them.
Jer:25:33:
And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth:
they shall not be lamented,
neither gathered,
nor buried;
they shall be dung upon the ground.
Ms Barbara,
thanks for sharing that.. As I sit here this fine and hazy morning watching our kitten play with anything she can find to bat around the floor, all kinds of apocalyptic thoughts are bouncing through my head. Is everything a lie? Was America a lie from the beginning? Did the founding fathers throw us under the bus all the time misdirecting the world with talk of “liberty and justice for all”?? Was she founded to fulfill a satanic “total control” end times scenario? So many questions and few of them with even the potential of a good answer..
Ya know what… just as soon as i start questioning everything I turn to the scriptures and I am reminded who rules over this world – the prince of lies. The bible tells us not to partake in what this world has to offer us because it is in conflict with what is just and true.. and I find that so on the mark that I feel a little ashamed for not living what I have for so long considered my “core beliefs”… I believe that it is time for the Christian to put up or shut up, so to speak. The time has come to decide if you are a “patriotic American” or a God loving person who stands for what is right. It appears that those two are now in direct conflict with one another..
It is easy for me to get caught up in what is going on.. especially easly for me as I am infected by this bio-weapom they call “Morgellons”.. I am grateful for having this because now I can see how The entire system, from the “those are just con-trails” EPA to the “Let me prescribe you a sedative for those bugs you think you have” AMA, all the way to the “these people are suffering from delusions of parasitosis because morgellons disease doesnt’t exist” CDC. I never would’ve believed you if you had told me that these core agencies of my government were NOT concerned with my well being! Quite to the contrary, these agencies conduct business as though they don’t want me around… well, that works for me because i don’t want to be here anymore myself…
thanks
That was a good read Barbara, and there is little doubt that the beginnings of Revelation are close, just not quite yet.
God is not the author of confusion and Revelation flows pretty well in order, along with a few parenthetical chapters thrown in there.
The two witnesses are the key to the beginnings of tribulation, in my opinion. Rev 11:3 states they will prophesy (teach) for 1260 days, which is 42 months. Then are killed by the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit in Rev 11:7.
That beast is Satan himself in Revelation Ch. 9. Regardless of one’s prophetic teachings most would agree that the “anti christ” kills the witnesses. The imposter christ comes first 5th trump, then Christ afterwards at the 7th trump (last trump as well).
Makes it easier to understand when one has a Strong’s concordance to get the contextual meanings of each English word when translated from it’s hebrew/greek origin. Anti means opposite in English, BUT means imposter in hebrew/greek. The imposter Christ will not seem like a bad guy at first, hence people worsshiping the wrong guy.
We are not in the End Times yet. Can we not still be saved by grace? The End Times are because of God’s wrath, which He promised, but we “are not appointed to wrath” as members of the Body of Christ. Wrath and grace are separate dispensations. Paul wrote that we are in “perilous times”, but we are not experiencing His wrath, yet. We will know!
However, it is time to prepare, both physically and spiritually. Thanks for your great site, and the fine work you do.
two thumbs up on your observations on Prophecy
most don’t have the stones to go there…
http://buelahman.wordpress.com/
taking judicial notice of the contrast between your concerns
and the Ruth @ the Forward…
http://forward.com/articles/18.....-for-high/
America needs a full dose of truth
which is self evident…
Sitting here thinking instead of sleeping. There are none as blind as those who refuse to see. I just saw reference to Proverbs 27=12 this week,i like that. Anyway seems to me that the only folks doing any prepping. Are those who are awake. So I would guess. If the Lord put it upon our hearts to be prepared. Then I am guessing that he intended for us to use such. So I don’t think we will just be snatched up anytime soon?
AMEN! Sister Barbara.
I am reminded of (many) nights staying up for sunrise. The Rising of the Sun always took place the moment after I gave up anticipating the Sun’s peeking at me over eastern hills. At some moment — the darkest hour is just before dawn (Mama Cass thanks!) — I became aware of the eastern sky lightening. Then the faintest stars disappeared from view. Then a whole bunch of stars faded away. The sky to the east became brighter and brighter…brighter for so long that I thought the Sun HAD to crest that spot on an eastern hill the very next minute. Still the Light grew brighter. Finally, as I mentioned, when I had given up anticipating the very moment the Sun Itself would appear, It appeared, piercingly, unmistakably BRIGHT!
Another analogy, more common now thanks to Sibel Edmonds, has to do with “boiling frogs”. Still, if we simply await the Rising of the Sun, with no further preparation, we might witness the rising, and have nothing to show for our awareness.
Time to get to work, pretend the end is Saturday morning one week, and see how well you’ve prepared thus far.
We had a fire nearby this past weekend. Lost phone service, then lost electrical power off and on. An older couple lost their home. Great efforts by our (consolidated) fire district and volunteers and neighbors helped save seven other homes, all our neighbors. Good practice, I thought, good time to practice.